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I was even more shocked to see from the Straits Times' end-note that the writer teaches law at the National University of Singapore. This must be a national disgrace of some sort. As someone asked on a mailing list -- does this qualify as hate speech?
Indeed, discrimination can be constitutionally valid if there is a rational basis for making such distinctions and the law in question serves a legitimate public good. Note the qualifying words: "rational", "legitimate" and "public". She then introduces the word "social" which starts to confuse the issue. Not all "social" aims are legitimate or rational. A majority religious group seeking to deny freedom of worship to a minority so as to keep their society homogenous may be a social objective, but it isn't legitimate. To say that women must not drive cars is also a social aim, but it isn't rational.
She doesn't say what are those "other rights" that repeal of 377A clash with. There's a good reason why she doesn't say. There are none. As for "community values", see above about rationality and legitimacy. A majority or dominant group can be irrational and can want its irrationality enshrined in law. That does not make it rational or legitimate. She's able to slip in "community values" as an argument because the word "social" has been introduced to muddy the waters. You'd notice also how "social" morphed to "community values" and then further morphed into "reflect the public good in preference over...".
At last, an attempt to explain the "social" and "public good". She writes that "sodomy" is a risk to public health. Everything we do, from eating cockles to hanging out our laundry can pose a risk to public health. Anal intercourse, like vaginal intercourse can do too. The reality is that the risk is nothing to scream about -- otherwise societies that have legalised gay marriage should be overrun with disease. She's just crying wolf. Secondly, she doesn't seem to object to the repeal of Section 377 itself which would legalise sodomy for opposite-sex couples. Consistency is an inescapable test of logic and rationality. When someone uses a purported reason to argue for A, yet keeps quiet about the same reason applying equally to B, one rightly suspects that the reason is being used merely as a smokescreen for a another underlying motive, which she is trying to hide. Therefore that purported reason should immediately be ruled out of court.
So what? All social change is driven by a broader agenda to transform society. Many of the rights various sections of our population take for granted, e.g. racial non-discrimination, freedom from slavery, right to basic education, freedom from forced marriage, were once unpopular "broader agenda" by some group or other. Transforming attitudes is not an illegitimate aim. Accusing others of trying to do so is more a reflection of the writer's irrational fears about change than an exercise in dispassionate logic.
More scare-mongering. All gay activists around the world adopt the stand that age of consent should be equal to heterosexual sex. For the writer to speak about age of consent at 13 or 18 only with reference to "sodomy" is mischievous. It is so because heterosexual sex in those places is also legal at those ages. If that doesn't seem to be a problem, why is homosexual sex at the same age a problem? The real problem here is that anti-gay campaigners tend to perceive of homosexuality as a class by itself with a high shock value, such that even equality in age of consent is held in horror by them. But such perception is basically irrational -- like saying it's OK for men to drive cars but horror of horrors, women shouldn't do it -- and therefore cannot be admitted as a constitutional argument.
Bringing in "paedophilia and bestiality" truly shows the poverty of her arguments. Most people who abuse children sexually are men targetting girls. Selectively ignoring this fact testifies to an attempt to mislead. Trying to extend the meaning of "sexual orientation" well beyond common usage in order to make her case borders on dishonesty. "Born gay" is more or less the consensus of the scientific community today. They may differ about the detailed mechanisms, but no serious, reputable researcher thinks that people become gay through socialisation or family upbringing. In any case, whether or not one is born anything is never the basis for fundamental civil rights. For example, being Christian or Hindu is not grounded in biology. Religious freedom is a civil right even though one's religion is acquired and one is free to change one's mind at any time. The basis for civil rights is respect for personal autonomy.
What cheek! What does the anti-gay lobby seek to do by criminalising others? Isn't that the mother of all censorship? It's not enough to shut people up, but to throw them in jail too.
Slippery-slope scare-mongering. A law professor should know better -- that not a few jurisdictions have in fact accepted the legal arguments (for same-sex marriage and equal treatment under the law re tax and adoption, etc) as solid and convincing. The arguments are not as outrageous as the tone of the above passages make them out to be.
Who ever said that?
Indeed, drawing an analogy between adulterers and homosexuals is fallacious. Having sexual relations with a third party behind the back of one's spouse violates a trust and causes deep personal hurt. Consensual homosexuality is no more hurt-inducing than consensual heterosexuality. It can be used for adulterous purposes, but often it is not. We say that the moral approbation reserved for adultery is rightly there, but to say that the same should apply to consensual homosexuality is illogical. To the extent that moral disapproval is placed on homosexuality, we will seek to change people's minds. Yvonne Lee wrote that "certain homosexual activists campaign to alter the public mindset" by way of suggesting that gay activists and their supporters are being deceitful when they claim they aren't out to change social attitudes. This was an attempt to set up a straw man. Quite the contrary, gay activists and their supporters make it quite clear they are out to change social attitudes. Who is being deceitful here?
Again, a statement unbecoming of a law professor. Section 377A applies to male-male sex in private too, a point she conveniently ignores. The government may have said they do not intend to prosecute, but such assurances have no standing in a court of law. And what does "foisting" mean?
"Aggressive homosexual rights agenda"? The use of such a phrase tells you where she's coming from, for which fundamentalist religious group is fond of such characterisation? * * * * * I have long known -- and lately, blogger Mr Wang Says So has also discovered -- that arguments with the primary anti-gay lobby group always takes a certain form. It starts by sounding reasonably logical, but then bit by bit, untenable extensions of logic, inappropriate analogies, straw men and scare-mongering claims are introduced. At first, these are easily pointed out. They then show their true colours, progressing to wilder and wilder claims and raising the decibel level. The emotion and desperation is plain to see, which only goes to show that the intellectual argument on their side is long lost. That a law lecturer is now having to step
in to do likewise, making her look silly to others in her profession by
her lack of acuity and logic, sacrificing her intellectual reputation for the sake of a
"cause" -- in the main daily newspaper, no less -- is almost
like an endgame on a chessboard. The king, queen and a rook are left to
defend themselves, the pawns and other pieces having all been taken. © Yawning Bread
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