Yawning Bread. July 2007

Letters to the press re MP Baey supports repeal

source: Straits Times


     

 

 

 

19 July 2007
Straits Times Forum, print edition

Rev Dr Yap doesn't speak for Methodist Church 

I refer to the article, 'MP Baey all for repealing anti-gay law' (ST, July 16). As the article may create misunderstanding among readers regarding the position of The Methodist Church in Singapore (MCS) concerning the issue of homosexuality, we wish to state the following.

Rev Dr Yap Kim Hao retired from active service in 1994 in the Trinity Annual Conference, a component body in the MCS. He does not speak for the MCS. The official body authorised to speak for the MCS is its General Conference.

The position of the General Conference regarding homosexuality is found in the Book of Discipline of the MCS (which contains the doctrinal statements, and administrative rules and principles of the church). Relevant sections include:

We consider the practice of homosexuality to be incompatible with Christian teachings. However, we do recognise that homosexual persons are individuals of sacred worth. They need the ministry and guidance of the church as well as the spiritual and emotional support of a caring fellowship.

Since the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching, self-avowed practising homosexuals are not to be accepted as candidates, ordained as itinerant ministers or approved to serve in the MCS.

Every itinerant minister of the MCS shall accept that the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teachings. A fuller explanation of the church's position is found in an article endorsed by the General Conference in 2004. The article can be found at our website at http//www.methodist.org.sg

Bishop Dr Robert Solomon
The Methodist Church in Singapore

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19 July 2007
Straits Times online forum

Homosexuality: Legalising something that is not right does not make it right 

The views I have regarding the current controversy of decriminalising gay sex is purely personal. However, I will not be surprised if other like-minded Singaporean mothers share my views. I had the opportunity to travel and live in North America, and experienced life in cities where homosexuality is openly acceptable.

While in San Francisco for a medical conference, my attempt to explore the city was marred by the Gay Pride Parade. There were rainbow flags all over the city, and the public transport system was paralysed because of the event.

My spouse and I lived in Toronto several years ago, while on a work attachment at a reputable hospital in the city. When we first arrived, we stayed at a hostel at Church Street. The irony was that it's the street where homosexuals hang out in.

I attended an eye-opening play at a gay theatre, about the gay lifestyle, performed by gays. The play was written by a 14-year-old school girl, and received good reviews for its literary merits on national newspaper. A local paediatrician colleague openly introduced her lesbian partner to us.

Most of the bookshops in North America will have significant sections for gay and lesbian literature, and not infrequently, they are right next to the children's books section.

I returned fully convinced that Singapore is still the best place to raise my children.

However, with casinos coming in, and now the push for the legal acceptance of an 'alternative lifestyle', our younger generation's moral compass will sway even more uncertainly.

As a paediatrician, I remain an advocate for the well-being of our children. Today's children and adolescents already have enough health and psycho-social issues to grapple with. They don't deserve the added problems of homosexuality and rising HIV infections.

When local schools teach that homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle, and my children's teachers are open about their homosexual relationships, I will quit my immensely satisfying career to home-school my children.

When local church/religious leaders sanction same-sex marriages and ordain homosexual ministers, I will quit going to church and will not send my children to a mission school.

The day Singapore becomes like San Francisco, foreign talents can come in all they like, but there would not be much left to keep me in Singapore.

I am not aware of any convincing medical literature that proves that homosexuality is genetic. Mankind has struggled with homosexuality since biblical times.

I am not expressing my views from a position of strength. As human beings, we all have our struggles and temptations.

However, legalising something that is not right does not make it right, does it?

Dr Ang Su Yin

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19 July 2007
Straits Times online forum

Views of 'conservative' majority must be heard, not just those of 'progressive thinkers'

Your report, 'MP Baey all for repealing anti-gay law' (ST, July 16), raises some questions. While the forum was attended by 'about 100 participants', it is not made clear whether it was a public forum or who had organised it.

Interestingly, while calling it an 'open discussion' the MPs' noted 'the absence of a different point of view meant the discussion lacked balance'. Mr Baey's closing comment is telling 'We are talking to the converted.' This view is clear from the 'loud applause' to his assertion that he would vote to decriminalise homosexuality.

Mr Baey's use of loaded terms like 'progressive thinking' is also not helpful for genuinely progressive discussion on this issue. It implies that the conservative view is not progressive and, by inference, regressive.

I am disturbed by the current promotion of just one side of the debate. The majority view of 'conservative' Singaporeans need to be heard, not just the views of 'progressive thinkers'.

Chia Boon Beng

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19 July 2007
Straits Times online forum

MP should reflect people's views on homosexuality, not only his own

I would like to comment on the MP for Tanjong Pagar GRC, Mr Baey Yam Keng's, stand on homosexuality. Let me first remind him that as the representative of the people of Tanjong Pagar, although only one part of five, he is supposed to reflect their views in Parliament and not only his personal ones.

When he goes on his walkabouts and when he gathers feedback from his constituents , he should try and find out what they think.

The recent polls by MediaCorp's Research Consultants reveal a very interesting statistic. A total of 62 per cent of the population feel that there is no room for homosexuals in Singapore

Maybe at the next election, Mr Baey should ask for a single constituency ward, make known his stand on homosexuality and his opposition to Section 377A and see how it turns out.

Kenneth Vaithilingam


 

Foreword by Yawning Bread

These are the letters that appeared in the Straits Times following the story (16 July 2007) that People's Action Party Member of Parliament Baey Yam Keng has decalred his support for the repeal of Section 377A of the Penal Code, which criminalises "gross indecency" between 2 males.

See the press reports archived in MP Baey supports repeal and my comments in the articles This month, the Christian rightwing finds 3 more villains and Homosexuality and the moral imperative

More letters in Why is it so hard to repeal an archaic law?, At stake is public morality, not pragmatism and an unpublished response to Ang Su Yin in Homosexuality is a problem only because homophobes make it so

 

 

Baey Yam Keng also appeared in a phone-in talkshow on Radio 93.8 (18 July 2007). I didn't listen to it, but, as reported by someone who did, there were many callers, both supporting him and otherwise. 

 

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